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P&S Final Assessment SOLGW Carbine With Matt Shockey

https://youtu.be/tpl1rn4Zh0A Matt Shockey provides his final thoughts about the Sons Of Liberty Gun Works review conducted for Primary & Secondary. https://sonsoflibertygunworks.com/  
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P&S Glassware Now Available From AT Armor!

You have been waiting for a reason to finally place that order with AT Armor. The basket on the AT Armor web store has items waiting for checkout. Those plates, that plate carrier, and those AT Armor shirts are waiting for you in limbo. Now is the time to place that order. A very limited quantity of the P&S Brown Water Glass and the P&S Pint Glass are now available. More will be ordered depending on demand. These are only available only through AT Armor. All net proceeds go to operating costs of the Primary & Secondary Network. Fight!
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The Basics of Hosting a Training Class

By Adam Syfrett Many people entertain the idea of playing host to a professional instructor, in the hopes of potentially mitigating some of their own personal logistical hurdles that would be involved in travelling to seek training. Others seek to do it just for the free spot in class. If these are your only motivations for being a host, I invite you to reconsider your train of thought. Playing host to a class places logistical and organizational demands on you far and away above attending one. That is not to say that the juice is not worth the squeeze. Having played host now to several instructors, I’ve greatly increased my own scope of knowledge, and circle of friends. The most obvious need for playing host is some sort of range facility. The facilities you have access to will play a critical role in the sort of classes you can host. Talk to the range owner/board, and see what sort of classes they are comfortable having their name associated with as well. If a certain class you want to host has something as a part of its plan of instruction (POI) that is against range rules-such as drawing from concealment, or

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Professionalism In Posting Within Social Media

By Phil Combs Unless this is your first encounter with Primary & Secondary, you’ll have more than likely noticed mention of ‘dis-information’ in today’s world of social media. In similar fashion has been a ‘Lack of details’ in posts as well as responding comments. The end result, more often than not, is a very to the point and informative comment thread muddied with more questions. The goal of this article is to provide a ‘guideline’ to better posting. Being vague provides little direction and subsequently leave readers either speculating or asking unnecessary questions. This particular post got very little response due to the lack of direction the poster gave. These types of posts usually end up being a runaway train of overwhelming and widely varying opinions with little usable or quality advice.     Here is a comment response making recommendations based off of feelings rather than specifics such as degree of use, time frame of the round count, etc. This is not very helpful in gauging whether a brand is up to the task of serious possibly lifesaving use.     Being as specific as possible is not only easier to follow, but gives a clearly defined direction for

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Armorer Delusions

By Rick Largesse I recently attended a Remington AR-15/M4 Armorer Certification course.  For two of us this was a re-certification, but for the other fifteen students, this was their first exposure to armoring this weapon platform.  The course started as most do, with and introduction of the instructor to the students and vice versa.  During these intros, it is common for the instructor to give a brief background on themselves to qualify their position as the course instructor.  This course was no different.  The instructor detailed his professional background in the armoring/manufacturing world, throwing out several recognizable company names.   From here things went downhill.  I jotted down a few key bits of wisdom to remember later on when armoring weapons that people defend their lives with.  These included: Use the firing pin to push out other pins(ie extractor pin) - (no use the proper punches) Industry standard barrel twist is 1in9 - (1/7 and 1/8 are far more of a standard which are able to stabilize a greater range of projectiles) 1in7 twist barrels will only stabilize projectiles between 69-90gr -(tell that to everyone using 55 gr without issue through their 1/7 barrels) Industry standard barrel steel is 4140.  Bushmaster goes

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The Varying Quality of the AR15 and Why. Part 1

By Will Larson, Owner: Semper Paratus Arms Over the course of the last few years and most recently in the last four years since I started teaching an AR-15 centric based armorer course, I usually get asked about what separates a “Hobby type AR” over one for professional use ( i.e.- anti-social gatherings). What we need to remember is that the AR-15 rifle born out of the AR-10 rifle as made by Arma-Lite was designed as a military weapon. Ultimately that means traveling to a foreign place and using it in combat. A weapons failure in combat is less forgiving than one on Saturday afternoon at the local shooting hole. Though it’s not a particularly easy question to answer, we can usually break it down into two distinct areas. The first one is the use of cheap, low cost components. Examples of this can include aluminum style Picatinny gas blocks, commercial type lower receiver extensions and bolts or barrels which have not undergone HP/MPI (High Pressure and Magnetic Particle Inspection) testing. This directly relates to the lack of any standards. Colt’s Manufacturing Company not only refined and re-designed the M16 after purchasing the patent’s and rights from Arma-lite, but they also

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Magpul PMAG Gen M3

Magazine Design Philosophy, Testing, and Performance of Magpul Industries PMAG Magazines for the AR/M4/M16/HK416/M249 By Duane Liptak, Director of Product Management and Marketing, Magpul Industries. Director of Magpul Core, Magpul Industries Corp. Building feeding devices for firearms is not a new endeavor, and many materials and methods of construction have been employed for this task. For many years, conventional wisdom regarding magazine construction was that metal was the material most suited to the task. Although other polymer magazines were attempted previously (Orlite, et. al.), the Magpul PMAG became the first generally accepted all-polymer magazine for AR-pattern rifles after its release in 2007. Early military testing drew some criticisms with performance at sub-arctic temperatures and with window material chemical resistance (In the MagLevel window variant). Rumors, assumptions, and outright incorrect information from this early testing and initial evaluations still persist, despite 7 years of materials, manufacturing, and design improvements to the PMAG product line, and millions of fielded magazines in continuous combat use in the GWOT. Current and ongoing testing, both internal and through third parties can easily and thoroughly dispel these rumors and assumptions from any early data. What follows is an explanation of what the PMAG “is”, why it

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2nd Amendment, Facts, & Social Media

We complain about liberal inaccuracies with firearms. Anti-gun agendas are using made up statistics and facts to scare people who don't know better. Much of today's pro-gun community on social media is also having issues with the truth. Too much rumor and inaccurate info is being spread as fact. The inaccuracies self perpetuate among groups because not enough people stand up for the truth. When people do stand up for the truth they are harassed and ostracized for having different ideas from common beliefs which also happen to be straight up wrong. If we want to defend the 2nd amendment and stand up for our rights we need to be on the same page. Spreading wrong info as fact misleads and weakens our position. Social media is a means of providing unchecked opinions with most being fueled by emotional attachments, not rational thought. Through social media, the loudest and most obnoxious seem to control the direction of the information flow. A great majority of those loud obnoxious people are also clueless about firearms, tactics, mindset, and training. Your airsoft grade optics on a bargain bin rifle might run great when you bench rest shoot half of a magazine yearly, but

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Competition Will Get You Killed On The Streets?

Tore Haugli provided insight in the P&S Facebook group P&S - Firearms Competitions in regards to an article that was critical of competition shooting. Here are his thoughts:  I have recently seen a trend where instructors from the "tactical world" are being very critical of competition shooting. Reasons behind this criticism varies from no focus on tactics, such as use of cover or concealment, walk throughs don’t happen in a gunfight, to competition creating training scars that will "get you killed in the streets", as the saying goes. A couple of articles touching on this topic were posted online recently, in a Facebook group I belong to. The author uses a lot of references to warfighting, and goes to great lengths to describe the differences of combat and competition, and why competition does not prepare you for the harsh realities of a combat gunfight. I asked the following questions based on this single excerpt from the first article: "A gunfight is a completely different world. The only factors that you can control are that of ammo you currently have and yourself. Everything else in this environment is now as random as rolling a pair of dice in crap shoot." -Is mission planning not a thing anymore?

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Law Enforcement Case Law and What it Means for You

So after Bill Blowers and I discussed LE training on a ModCast recently, I got several questions regarding case law and how it applies to training and where liabilities exist - so rather than answer a couple people, I’m going to address those questions and issues in this article. This article will serve you especially well if you’re involved in the training world at all for LE and trying to advance training, but hitting some roadblocks with the administration. First and foremost, if you are in any kind of training capacity for LE, you need to become intimately familiar with the term “Deliberate Indifference”. You are not always going to get your way when it comes to training, but this term will serve you well in two ways. The first way is, when you shed light on the fact that deliberate indifference exists within the organization, admin folks take notice. Secondly, making a claim of deliberate indifference will often shift the liability from you when claims are made, especially if you have documentation (emails, denied requests, etc).  So, what the does Deliberate Indifference mean?....Glad you asked. Deliberate indifference is defined as requiring (1) an "awareness of facts from which the

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