RDS on pistols
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WayneF
Member
I first started playing around with a RDS on a pistol back in 2010. I slapped a J Point on a rear sight mount on a G19 and took off for a RskTkr Consulting class in Ohio. The setup left much to be desired. I ran out of elevation adjustment and could not get the dot zeroed correctly, the added height also made for a hard time finding the dot. At the end of the class, I sent the red dot along with one of the instructors/gunsmiths who milled out a slide for the optic. My natural tendency to aim high with Glocks and lack of any iron sights on the slide, made for a slower presentation and I ended up selling off the slide and optic.
Fast forward a few years and the RDS pistol craze was starting to kick off in a big way. Considering the popularity, I decided to give it another shot. I picked up a CORE and a RMR 02. I was not in love with the mounting solution. The adapter plate design while flexible, never seemed like a solid setup. I still carried the gun quite a bit and used it as my primary training gun for about a year or so.
After putting in the training needed, I quickly saw the merits and decided to get a quality rig by Doug at ATEi. The difference was night and day. The slide is milled to my exact optic, it is much more secure, I have less issues with slight zero wandering from the mount, and the lower height makes it even quicker to pick up the dot.
I now greatly prefer carrying with the dot. On a static square range, it isn't a huge advantage other than longer range shots. However once we start looking at moving targets, it all changes. The ability to actually watch the target instead of my sight is a huge advantage. It also makes shooting in low light quite a bit easier. The only times I have had issues with washing out the dot was when using a 500 lumen U Boat on a paper target at close range. I do not have the same issues with a 3D target in a t shirt.
Fast forward a few years and the RDS pistol craze was starting to kick off in a big way. Considering the popularity, I decided to give it another shot. I picked up a CORE and a RMR 02. I was not in love with the mounting solution. The adapter plate design while flexible, never seemed like a solid setup. I still carried the gun quite a bit and used it as my primary training gun for about a year or so.
After putting in the training needed, I quickly saw the merits and decided to get a quality rig by Doug at ATEi. The difference was night and day. The slide is milled to my exact optic, it is much more secure, I have less issues with slight zero wandering from the mount, and the lower height makes it even quicker to pick up the dot.
I now greatly prefer carrying with the dot. On a static square range, it isn't a huge advantage other than longer range shots. However once we start looking at moving targets, it all changes. The ability to actually watch the target instead of my sight is a huge advantage. It also makes shooting in low light quite a bit easier. The only times I have had issues with washing out the dot was when using a 500 lumen U Boat on a paper target at close range. I do not have the same issues with a 3D target in a t shirt.
JCcypress
Newbie
Unity Tactical ATOM slide on Gen3 G19, with RM06, and Unity trigger.
I'm still getting used to the RDS pistol thing and trying to make the transition from my other 19 with irons. Went with the ATOM because I wanted to keep my options open, should I decide the RMR is not the answer for me. I'm enjoying great accuracy with the rig, but am still working on presentation from retention. Having fun with it so far!
That's my wife holding it and showing off her excellent trigger discipline!
I'm still getting used to the RDS pistol thing and trying to make the transition from my other 19 with irons. Went with the ATOM because I wanted to keep my options open, should I decide the RMR is not the answer for me. I'm enjoying great accuracy with the rig, but am still working on presentation from retention. Having fun with it so far!
That's my wife holding it and showing off her excellent trigger discipline!
It looks like a Stolen Valor pistol. Artifically worn.
WayneF
Member
The CORE is a good way of testing out the concept before getting your gun carved on. Give it a chance, train to it, and see if it works for you. If it does, sell off the CORE and use that money to have ATEi mill the slide on your current M&P. It will be a much more rugged setup.
What is your question?
Matt, I think he is referring to Waynes comment on dumping the Core .
Ammohouse, the CORE is a factory option designed to be one size fits all. But it doesn't really . By having it milled into the slide, you get a rock solid mount which translates to a solid zero, minus any mechanical issues with the red dot itself.
Ammohouse, the CORE is a factory option designed to be one size fits all. But it doesn't really . By having it milled into the slide, you get a rock solid mount which translates to a solid zero, minus any mechanical issues with the red dot itself.
ptrlcop
Established
I've got 1 slide from TSD with an RMR01 that I've run pretty hard and validated red dots with.
I should be getting another RMR01 this week and will be sending a second G17 to AETi for a grip chop and to get the rmr milled.
On the range I kind of like the adjustable models, but I don't like dicking with stuff so I've put the non adjustable on my working guns.
I should be getting another RMR01 this week and will be sending a second G17 to AETi for a grip chop and to get the rmr milled.
On the range I kind of like the adjustable models, but I don't like dicking with stuff so I've put the non adjustable on my working guns.
Joe Halloran
Amateur
I think I've posted in this thread...I usually prowl the interwebs when I've been drinking AND after talking to Yeti...so my shit ends up like this:
I plan on burning that G35 with newly installed ALG down tomorrow...like a retarded kid on a drum set...
I plan on burning that G35 with newly installed ALG down tomorrow...like a retarded kid on a drum set...
Joe Halloran
Amateur
You can...I took the blast shield off mine too