What is quality?

You see the problem lies in a consuming public not knowing what really constitutes well made gear.

If you have condor gear in any color outside of multicam or ATACS AU and it was purchased between 2012-2013 then chances are it was made with us made MC and Atacs raw fabric out of Duro and Schott Performance.

That said, the geometry and methods used to construct their products are substandard at best with frequent deviations from specifications (most noticeably in PALS channel formation)

Sometimes the stitch length is as big as 4 stitches per inch on major surfaces up to 6 SPI, when your break strength is about 11lbs per stitch it does count when you start applying a warload.

Take a ruler alongside your stitches and see for yourself. .. measure the pals Webbing too, 1.5″ on center, 1″ gap in between

Rarely do you see any reinforcement to critical load bearing or contact surfaces (where material exposed to plate surfaces, or where Webbing is interfaced with platebag)… any sewn down Webbing should be finished in such a manner that there are no exposed ends to fray out and render that Webbing useless

It is stitched up just to be functionally able to act in its intended form, to hold a plate in a static form… but due to movement and the way things move in a dynamic sense, stress loads previously not present upon the sewn structures will suddenly undergo loading that will exceed stitch capacity and then pop goes the article.

Dimensionally speaking ALL pouches should fit exactly in between one or more pals channels and NOT extend beyond into another channel on either side

So is all this worth it to you? If you rationalize a 50.00 condor plate carrier as good enough, then I would submit that you need to reassess what is critical instead of getting something just because someone else is getting one too

That said, this is what I set out to compare yesterday… I bought a Condor Gunner release able PC, and a Mayflower / Velocity Scarab Light PC to compare both ends of the cost/build spectrum in terms of what 100.00 retail gets you and what 315.00 will get you.

5 Stitch per inch throughout

Rear face of PC

Top half of rear face with “drag handle”
More on that later

That drag handle, a single thickness of 17337 webbing and it’s already pulling away from body face… not reinforced nor does it extend throughout the body of the pc to distribute it’s loading

Stitching to “taper” the handle.. not quite symmetric

Unreinforced joint interface… at least bartack or run multiple stitches through to keep in place

Loose thread from and unreinforced joint

Poorly prepped piece of loop with non-symmetrical stitching

Pals spacing… deviations

Front cbund flap with “kangaroo pouch” outboard channels are larger than spec

Stitching on QR pull tab

Stitch alignment and lack of symmetry against pc body edge

That close to edge increases likelihood of seam failure

Unfinished raw edges of nylon, and velcro… along with loose stitching

Deviations of PALS “gap” spacing. . Should be 1″

Gap spacing… should be 1″

Cbund flap / kangaroo pouch… unfinished… leads to unintended bulk and a failure point

Another view of joint of kangaroo pouch… this will tearout since it isn’t reinforced

Another view of joint, raw edges could simply be dealt with by rolling in the finished edging and then stitching down