Why Not Condor?

[Practically Tactical]

Question for you guys. Would you recommend Condor as a first rig? I need to start getting a rig setup to try to take my first shoot house class (hopefully) this year. I do need to keep the costs low to afford the class.

My thought process is this: Buy Condor. Figure out WTF I like, What I don't like. Basically have it be my beater to figure out what I want in a real rig, so that what when I buy it, have a little bit of experience.

Of Note: This rig would JUST be for SHTF or role play with my wife. Nothing else. No operating in dynamic environments.

 

[Matt Landfair]

SHTF means potentially life dependant. Never an excuse to run it.

 

[Practically Tactical]

Is there such a thing as a good "budget" carrier? New threat?

 

[Grizzly]

Question for you guys. Would you recommend Condor as a first rig? I need to start getting a rig setup to try to take my first shoot house class (hopefully) this year. I do need to keep the costs low to afford the class.

My thought process is this: Buy Condor. Figure out WTF I like, What I don't like. Basically have it be my beater to figure out what I want in a real rig, so that what when I buy it, have a little bit of experience.

Of Note: This rig would JUST be for SHTF or role play with my wife. Nothing else. No operating in dynamic environments.

No. I took this path because I got a condor pc with about $70 worth of good quality pouches attached to it for $75. It is great to abuse and use for sim training but over all unless you get some stupid good deal stay away. Mayflowers can be had for about $100 more than a condor carrier. Or get some good used carrier. Having worn both there is a night and day difference in comfort. Spend a little more and get a lot more carrier.

 

[Steve S.]

Forgive the FNG chiming in. I worked at an indoor range, and one of the owners wanted the RSO's to wear armor. I had a decent set of IIIA soft panels, but the concealable carrier was falling apart. I bought a Condor QPC plate carrier, the soft panels fit perfectly inside. I wore the carrier 5 days a week, 8-10 hours a day for about 5 months. It held up well, but I wasn't runnn' and gunnin', either. It rode around in the back seat for my truck for a few months, got tossed around here and there, still holding up OK.

I don't have plates for it, don't really have the "need" for them, haven't been able to use it for a class or anything strenuous, but for what I needed it for at the time, it worked OK.

 

[10usc311]

I have no experience with use outside of .civ training but, when Tactical Tailor and Grey Ghost have multiple 25-30% off sales per year, Condor just doesn't make sense for me.

I don't buy the cammo du jour, and my bare minimum requirement for gear is that it's made by companies known for use by those who regularly go in harm's way. It doesn't guarantee it won't fail, but it ups the chances that it won't.

 

[ScottPM09]

I have one of their Summit jackets that I have worn for LE patrol use for the past two years and it does its job and it certainly didn't break the bank. However, considering I live in Georgia, the actual time spent in that jacket has been minimal. IIRC, while in Afghanistan, I used one of their General purpose pouches on my assault pack. It held up decently, but I wouldn't have dared to put any sensitive items or necessary pieces of equipment in there. It fit a niche and that was it.

For range clothing, sure. I compare it to wearing Walmart clothes in terms of quality and that might be derogatory to Walmart. You get what you pay for. As for equipment, save up a couple more bucks and buy good stuff that you aren't going to worry about failing you at critical times.

That's about all I have to say about condor.

 

[Phillip Boisselle]

There PALS never fits any items of kit and their back packs eat crap fast (and they arn't exactly confy on the way down) If I have a kid I'll give him condor and voodoo to play army in the woods w/ so when he inevitably doesn't bring it home one day it won't be that big of a deal. But I wouldn't even suggest this shit for airsoft, I mean not if you want to be competitive at least =P

 

[TheTick]

Question for you guys. Would you recommend Condor as a first rig? I need to start getting a rig setup to try to take my first shoot house class (hopefully) this year. I do need to keep the costs low to afford the class.

My thought process is this: Buy Condor. Figure out WTF I like, What I don't like. Basically have it be my beater to figure out what I want in a real rig, so that what when I buy it, have a little bit of experience.

Of Note: This rig would JUST be for SHTF or role play with my wife. Nothing else. No operating in dynamic environments.

Okay, I think we covered the OP. Can we get back to wearing a PC to role play with your wife?

Pictures would be helpful.

 

[Phillip Boisselle]

Question for you guys. Would you recommend Condor as a first rig? I need to start getting a rig setup to try to take my first shoot house class (hopefully) this year. I do need to keep the costs low to afford the class.

My thought process is this: Buy Condor. Figure out WTF I like, What I don't like. Basically have it be my beater to figure out what I want in a real rig, so that what when I buy it, have a little bit of experience.

Of Note: This rig would JUST be for SHTF or role play with my wife. Nothing else. No operating in dynamic environments.

So you probably could get that kit and use it in a training capacity, but that's money spent on kit that isn't meant for a "time is life" situations. AT Armor (who contributes to this forum) sells the velocity light weight plate carrier for $160 and a 3 mag kangaroo insert for not much. A great combo to get any one off to the races:
https://store.appalachiantraining.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=LWPC

Now if you don't necessarily need armor just yet a lot of great company's make chest rigs (some of which will integrate into that armor system) AT Armors website also has Mayflowers UW chest rig and the Haley Strategic D3CR which was made in conjunction with Extreme Gear Labs. If you go on EGL's website you may request three, four or five magazine holding variants of the chest rig, labeled as the VOCR, in a left handed or right handed configuration. BTW the girls find all the army man shit sexy, plate rig or chest rig =)

in order to elaborate more we would have to spill over into the chest rig thread or create a new thread, so the best advice any one should take to heart is be OK with forking out a few bucks more for good kit. I've heard condor has upgraded there quality a bit and gotten better with QC, but that doesn't change their Modus operandi, which is make riches on war fighters. Their not the only one, there's a grocery list of company's now that are right in line with them they we could all think of.

 

[Bill Blowers]

$9 ball caps have been good, the rest is junk....