@SQUID Ever have anyone grab that pull ring in a fight an unzip your carrier? Out of curiosity, what would happen if they did? And as an update for everyone, we recently stumbled into to outer carriers from Paraclete that were federal overruns. Multiple sizing options available, Molle based, extra pouches with a cummerbund and Velcro patches. Only issue is no pocket for plates. But it makes a good option for range stuff as well as quick grab and go times. Best part of that vest is that they were free, so most of us that have them are making them work until better options come along that gets approved for daily patrol use.