Situation -
The program I work for has had a spate of individuals that show up and fail weapons quals on T-Day 1. This is a waste of time and money for both the company and the individuals so we're trying to figure out some ways to mitigate it. Public dissemination of the actual qualification course is frowned on, however one of the ideas suggested was to send candidates an abbreviated course of fire that requires similar accuracy standards/times for them to train on. In an effort to keep things affordable for guys, I wanted to limit the COF to 20 rounds. Both quals are below.
Pistol Qualification
Candidates will load 2 magazines of 10
Every course of fire will start in the standing, hands relaxed at sides
25yrd line standing
2 rounds 6sec (x 2)
4 rounds total.
15yrd line
2 rounds standing 4 sec
2 rounds kneeling 4 sec
2 rounds kneeling / reload / 2 rounds standing 10sec
8 rounds total.
7yrd line
3 rounds standing strong hand only 6 sec
Transfer weapon to support hand
3 rounds standing support hand only 5 sec
6 rounds total
3yrd line
2 rounds standing (head shots) 3 sec
This is with both hands.
2 rounds total.
Rifle Qualification
Candidates load 1 rifle magazine of 10 and 1 rifle magazine of 8 and 1 pistol magazine of 2. Candidates will load the 10 round magazine first
All courses of fire will start from the low ready (muzzle even with beltline) unless otherwise directed.
50yrd line
2 rounds standing 10 sec
2 rounds kneeling 6 sec (Remain kneeling)
2 rounds kneeling aimed in on fire 3 sec
1 round kneeling aimed in on fire 1 round prone 8 sec
8 rounds total.
25yrd line
2 rounds standing /reload/ 2 rounds kneeling (Remain kneeling) 10 sec
2 rounds kneeling aimed in on fire 2 sec.
6 rounds total
15yrsd line
2 rounds standing 2 sec.
2 rounds total
7yrd line
2 rounds standing (head shots) / Transition to pistol / 2 rounds standing (body) 4 sec. Unload show clear all weapons.
4 rounds total
SCORING
A-Zone (Green) – 5pts
C-Zone (Yellow) – 4pts
D-Zone (Orange) – 3pts
Shooter is awarded higher value for rounds breaking the line.
Any hit in the head when trying to hit the body is scored as a miss.
Any hit in the body when trying to hit the head is scored as a miss.
Where you come in -
I'm trying to establish baselines for acceptable scoring. If I use a direct translation in percentages from our full COF, I would be looking for;
RIFLE - 93pts to pass
PISTOL - 88pts to pass
My instinct is to set scores at;
RIFLE - 90
PISTOL - 85
I have no data or metrics to support that. It's just where I am initially leaning.
What I'm looking for are guys that can shoot this the next time they go to the range and let me know where you landed and if you think a 93/88 or 90/85 (or something else) is reasonable. One of the issues I find myself constantly fighting is unrealistic expectations for the majority of gun-carrying professionals. If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it.
The program I work for has had a spate of individuals that show up and fail weapons quals on T-Day 1. This is a waste of time and money for both the company and the individuals so we're trying to figure out some ways to mitigate it. Public dissemination of the actual qualification course is frowned on, however one of the ideas suggested was to send candidates an abbreviated course of fire that requires similar accuracy standards/times for them to train on. In an effort to keep things affordable for guys, I wanted to limit the COF to 20 rounds. Both quals are below.
Pistol Qualification
Candidates will load 2 magazines of 10
Every course of fire will start in the standing, hands relaxed at sides
25yrd line standing
2 rounds 6sec (x 2)
4 rounds total.
15yrd line
2 rounds standing 4 sec
2 rounds kneeling 4 sec
2 rounds kneeling / reload / 2 rounds standing 10sec
8 rounds total.
7yrd line
3 rounds standing strong hand only 6 sec
Transfer weapon to support hand
3 rounds standing support hand only 5 sec
6 rounds total
3yrd line
2 rounds standing (head shots) 3 sec
This is with both hands.
2 rounds total.
Rifle Qualification
Candidates load 1 rifle magazine of 10 and 1 rifle magazine of 8 and 1 pistol magazine of 2. Candidates will load the 10 round magazine first
All courses of fire will start from the low ready (muzzle even with beltline) unless otherwise directed.
50yrd line
2 rounds standing 10 sec
2 rounds kneeling 6 sec (Remain kneeling)
2 rounds kneeling aimed in on fire 3 sec
1 round kneeling aimed in on fire 1 round prone 8 sec
8 rounds total.
25yrd line
2 rounds standing /reload/ 2 rounds kneeling (Remain kneeling) 10 sec
2 rounds kneeling aimed in on fire 2 sec.
6 rounds total
15yrsd line
2 rounds standing 2 sec.
2 rounds total
7yrd line
2 rounds standing (head shots) / Transition to pistol / 2 rounds standing (body) 4 sec. Unload show clear all weapons.
4 rounds total
SCORING
A-Zone (Green) – 5pts
C-Zone (Yellow) – 4pts
D-Zone (Orange) – 3pts
Shooter is awarded higher value for rounds breaking the line.
Any hit in the head when trying to hit the body is scored as a miss.
Any hit in the body when trying to hit the head is scored as a miss.
Where you come in -
I'm trying to establish baselines for acceptable scoring. If I use a direct translation in percentages from our full COF, I would be looking for;
RIFLE - 93pts to pass
PISTOL - 88pts to pass
My instinct is to set scores at;
RIFLE - 90
PISTOL - 85
I have no data or metrics to support that. It's just where I am initially leaning.
What I'm looking for are guys that can shoot this the next time they go to the range and let me know where you landed and if you think a 93/88 or 90/85 (or something else) is reasonable. One of the issues I find myself constantly fighting is unrealistic expectations for the majority of gun-carrying professionals. If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it.