What are the top branded AR15's

I would have to say Daniel Defense/knights armament/ Noveske/ LWRCI/ BCM/ Vltor/ Lmt. All very good quality and well made AR's. I run a DDM4A1 that I completely trust with my life. But if it wasn't for the AR I have now anyone of these manufactures would be an amazing choice. Most of these company's rifles have more then proven themselves in a theater of combat. And all use top notch quality parts. And I can go on for hours about the amazing grade of barrels these guys use.


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Dod505

Newbie
In no particular order, Colt 6920, BCM, Daniel Defense, LMT as they all have excellent reputations for building well made, military grade weaponry. For the high end gucci or boutique crowd, Noveske and KAC as they are built above and beyond the minimum required for the TDP (Technical Data Package) and you will certainly pay the increased prices for them. I've owned one of each at one point in time by the way. For the budget minded, M&P15 is probably the best mass produced commercial grade AR. There M&P10 7.62 gun rocks by the way. Everything else out there I would consider an occasional hobby gun.
 

TomF

Member
I have had nothing but bad luck with BCM barrels (sample of 5 personally owned and numerous students) over the last five years. I know they have a good reputation from trusted sources but there are also a number of other trusted sources with experiences similar to mine.

The vast majority of parts on my guns are DD.

I should add that BCM was receptive to my problems and offered to replace barrels, but after playing that game a few times and still having 4moa guns or extensions that wouldn't fit receivers (even their receivers) I decided to move on.
 

ROMPER

Amateur
BCM and DD are my go to makers. All my work guns started life as DMRO M16A1s and have gone through several barrels and replacement parts. In their current form they all have DD upper receivers and 12.5" barrels, with zero issues. My personal guns are all BCM, I have come to really love the mid-length setup, starting with the standard heavy barrel (best accuracy) and now own a few of the lighter weight barrels (not as good in the accuracy area but are very light and fast handling.
I heard that Tim Dillon moved over to Noveske, and I have owned several Noveske rifles in the past.....Tim is good people and if things can be brought back I believe he can do it.
Used to run Rock River Arms barrels.....with no issues.....last year I had 7 of them in basic rifle classes with 6 shitting the bed high order and most of those going down in learning zero (less than 100 rounds). Major issues noted with RRA, buffer spring 2" longer than spec with the same coil count, light weight buffers, 1 gas key that would not fit flush on the carrier (actually could feel and see it move) leaking gas, and not positive but believe gas issues in either the barrel gas return hole, FSB or gas tube. Also loose barrels. RRA is no longer approved here.
S&W has turned around pretty well, I have seen no issues since the first batch......here the state patrol started with them and of four hundred and some odd rifles ALL crashed and burned in their basic training.
And of course Colt makes a good rifle, especially for the money.

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KMo1205

Member
I use BCM for all my personal builds. I love their company culture, customer service, and really fast shipping. I have used Palmetto State Armory for some low budget builds for a .22lr. Their stuff is okay, but not what I would recommend for duty use. Rock River Arms makes some great rifles as well, but I would put it more in the hobby/ hunting/ varmint rifle category. For high power rifle competitions, White Oak Armament is my go to for barreled uppers. I would love to shoot LaRue Tactical at some point, but have no experience with them.
 

ptrlcop

Established
BCM. Their shit works, I have met Paul at several training classes, he bought me dinner once and they are located in my home state and are good to their employees.

I understand that some of those reasons have nothin to do with the rifle, but I like giving good people my money vs people I don't know.
 

Matt Landfair

Matt Six Actual
Staff member
Administrator
I have read poor reviews of Christensen Arms. Rock River definitely falls in hobby category.
 

regdudedrtyjob

Regular Member
BCM, Colt, DD, LMT, FN are brands I would consider the minimum for duty. Higher end stuff to me would be HK 416, PWS, Noveske, Knights Armament, VLTOR. There are others I would be interested in, like LVOA, ADM rifles, but on my budget that is just a dream for now.
 
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ejh28

Newbie
2 DD rifles shows where my heads at...
My first AR was a DDv3 and I never looked back. Built a couple of lowers and went with another DD upper for that rifle. I'm planning on a MK18 upper when my tax stamp comes back.
I want to give BCM a try since I've heard so many positive things about them (and at half the cost), but I'm not a Keymod fan. I've been seeing some people post about the rails failing lately, and that scares me off.

Plus Yeti is a dick and let me shoot his MidWest Industries rifle with M-LOK rails, knowing that I would want one as soon as I picked it up... Sooo nice!
 

North

Amateur
Although the only original parts of my Rock River are the upper, lower (stripped) and barrel... I have never had an issue with it. After reading tons of reviews, I guess I just got a rare one? I got it super cheap back in the day when I sold guns.

Having sold MANY shelf rifles, I will say that when demand rises incredibly fast for rifles, QA goes down with the manufacturer. There are many brands that you can recommend at one given time, and maybe should not at another time. I have seen these issues happen with 6920's as well. Example, I don't want any 6920 made between 2008-2009.

Obviously, your best bet is to buy from companies that clearly will not outsource or rush to meet demand. The companies you all have mentioned are stellar choices. May have to wait a while when rifles are selling fast, but it is worth it.

I do want to pick yer brains about a sub 16" suppressed rifle though. I will add another thread.
 

rob_s

Member
The discovery of a "lemon" in the AR world is extremely rare, although with the rise of the entertrainment industry and 3 Gun Nation the need for reliable firearms, and the exposure of those that are not, has increased substantially.

Many moons ago the list was "ABC" for Armalite, Bushmaster, and Colt. That should give you some clue as to how different BM was seen and how much Colt had slipped. By the time of the first "Chart" it was becoming apparent that the "as good as" brands, simply weren't. For whatever reason Colt had finally gotten their head out of their ass and was making a good gun, and not many other companies were. Couple that with the rise of entertrainment, and suddenly the guy with the DPMS or Oly that the gunshop employee told him was "just as good" was finding out that "no it wasn't". Prior to that most ARs sat on shelves or in safes, got dragged out once a year at best, and when they failed it was chalked up to "Uncle Kenny always did say that they jammed on him in 'Nam."

Today, I think the quality of the broad spectrum of ARs is at least somewhat better. Some credit the original Chart for this. I do not. I think that consumers are simply becoming more savvy, and more interested in having guns that actually work. Now, that said, more savvy often simply means that they know enough to be dangerous. Customers start to learn a little bit, demand that their carrier key be "properly staked", and the manufacturers start staking them. That does't mean the carrier key material is correct, or that the bolt material is correct, or that any of them have gone through the proper testing and QA/QC process, etc. it just means somebody took a chisel to your carrier key.

But, the key is probably better off staked than not staked, and the receiver extension is probably better of being "milspec" diameter than "commercial", and whatever other superficial changes the also-rans make.

To date, I haven't found anyone that does everything the way Colt does (or, the way the spec says they should), and even Colt misses some steps (un-staked keys are becoming an increasing occurrence). But event he bottom-of-the-barrel have been dragged up, and even when the middle-of-the-barrel gets something wrong it doesn't really matter that much.

And then you have all these people with their "improved" extractors, carriers, coatings, etc. It's a confusing time, but it probably doesn't matter.
 

SPQR476

MAGPUL
Vendor
If I bought a new "ready to go" it would likely be a Hodge or an FN. High-end would likely be an SR-15 with the new M-LOK URX. The reality is that I have exactly one AR assembled by anyone other than myself, though, and the rest look something like...
Decent Receivers, brand irrelevant if in spec.
DD or FN barrel (I have a proof on one SPR)
DD or LMT BCG
Colt mag catch and bolt catch.
B.A.D. selector
Other pins, etc., brand largely irrelevant.
Geissele SSA or SSA-E
Geissele, MI, etc., M-LOK rail
Geissele gas block
7075 mil-spec rcvr extension
Various Magpul furniture, obviously

6920 or the FN guns, though, are really hard to beat.
 

rob_s

Member
Question for those suggesting the commercial FN guns...

What substantiates that opinion? Are there enough samples out there in the market to give a sense of their quality, reliability, and longevity?

I ask because I haven't come across many samples but have read mixed reports online. It would be nice if, like Colt, they were using what they know from their government contracts in their commercial guns, but I'm not sure that's the case.
 

Campy

Newbie
Question for those suggesting the commercial FN guns...

What substantiates that opinion? Are there enough samples out there in the market to give a sense of their quality, reliability, and longevity?

I ask because I haven't come across many samples but have read mixed reports online. It would be nice if, like Colt, they were using what they know from their government contracts in their commercial guns, but I'm not sure that's the case.


Have you looked at Colt QC for the civilian market? It seems lately that it is all over the place. I'm not sure about FN. I know people who have them and love them. They are quality built. The number one complaint I hear is that the Scar 17S eat optics up.


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