RFI: Merging a Comp Belt with a Tactical Belt

Joe _K

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I want to be able to combine what is in my opinion the best of both worlds and have not seen anyone offering this setup. Ideally I would like a cobra buckle duty/tactical 1.75-2" outer belt like this;



Worn over a First Spear base belt;



But have the outer belt utilize the Safariland hole pattern so I can run ELS mounts like this;



Has anyone seen this or a similar setup before? I'm kind of stuck on the must have a Cobra buckle part.

Any real or potential downsides to this I haven't been able to come up with?

Velocitas, Opprimere,
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#2
I've had this desire also, but have not seen anything with the ELS hole patterns. Just the Molle link up system on the exterior she'll of the belt for the els mounting system.

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#4
Some find the ELS mounting system a bit stronger that the Molle system found on most belts. I know I gate the wobble of the attachments on my belt.

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Joe _K

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What is the benefit of the ELS system within this context?

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Being able to reconfigure attachments easily, as was previously stated a more rigid/stable platform from which to pull mags, and tools from.

Having been issued and worn Eagle and Tactical Tailor Subload MOLLE belts, Bianchi nylon black duty belts, Sam Brown Leather belts, and a myriad of personally owned nylon tactical/CCW gun belts I have tried a few different styles and types of belts. For non CCW work I prefer a base/liner belt and a rigid gun belt over.

Velocitas, Opprimere,
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#6
You should be able to use a soldering iron to make holes in a nylon belt to achieve what you're trying to do, if you're dead set on the ELS thing. I love my ELS competition belt but am using a Volund micro Battlebelt at work and it seems to be the best compromise I've found.
 

Joe _K

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You should be able to use a soldering iron to make holes in a nylon belt to achieve what you're trying to do, if you're dead set on the ELS thing. I love my ELS competition belt but am using a Volund micro Battlebelt at work and it seems to be the best compromise I've found.
Good idea on the soldering iron thing!
I will attempt to borrow an ELS belt, make a stencil guide out of steel construction flashing, clamp my belt under it, and then burn the holes through.
 

Joe _K

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Purchased today, although I've decided to go a slightly different route in regards to the buckle. Will update when products arrive.

- 2" Tactical ELS Belt
- ELS starter kit
- Buckle assembly
- Single Pistol Mag pouch
- Single Rifle Mag pouch


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Joe _K

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2" x 38" ELS Safariland Belt - Tan/FDE
1" Rachet Buckle with Steel Female Buckle
1x 774 Safariland M4 Mag Pouch
1x 71 Safariland Single Pistol Pouch
1x 1" Surefire Light Holster
1x 6354 DO Safariland ALS Holster - FDE

Still have yet to attach:
Second 71 Pistol Mag Pouch
IFAK
Dump Pouch



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#12
A buddy at work uses one of thoes ratchet buckles for 3 gun...they look like a great solution for getting a ELS belt system on & off easily.
 

Joe _K

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I have since changed up my belt setup. I’ve ditched the ELS devices, switched to an RMR, waiting on a Safariland 6384 RDS to arrive from HolsterOps, trimmed a few inches off of the ELS belt to reduce overlap, added a second pistol pouch, a custom Mini Bleeder pouch, and a dump pouch.


If I had to do it all over again I would opt for the CARBS belt, cheaper, more rigid, better mounting options.




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tacweapon

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Joe_K
2" x 38" ELS Safariland Belt - Tan/FDE
1" Rachet Buckle with Steel Female Buckle
1x 774 Safariland M4 Mag Pouch
1x 71 Safariland Single Pistol Pouch
1x 1" Surefire Light Holster
1x 6354 DO Safariland ALS Holster - FDE

Still have yet to attach:
Second 71 Pistol Mag Pouch
IFAK
Dump Pouch



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What holster are you using here with the aimpoint and WML ?
 
#16
I had a similar dilemma as I wanted a belt that would do both. I wanted to train with my actual load out and also to generally have a minimal amount of systems.

Currently using a cobbled together version with a TT duty belt, a Costa leg rig, IFAK and a safariland holster.

I am happy with the concept and its worked well. Want to upgrade to a Ronin belt and a pair of double tacos. The current rig will become a back up then.