Recoil Springs and Weighted Guide Rods

[Jamie]

Trying to get some input from guys that have used them. Specifically I'm looking at Glock platforms and deciding to buy or not buy for a RS Build, and wanted to see what others experiences were.


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[jake0331]

Could you please elaborate for the uneducated? What benefits do you gain from either of these options?

 

[Jamie]

Heavier guide places more weight up front and reduces muzzle flip, allowing you to get back on target a little quicker. Spring rate can effect cyclic rate and also the KE with which the slide comes back into battery, changing how the system works with different loads.


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[MrMurphy]

If you truly want to reduce muzzle flip, get a compensator. I've never seen a guide rod really truly no shit seriously affect recoil. I've shot 1911s with and without heavier/solid/unobtainium guide rods, etc and can't tell the difference.

Could Jerry Miculek? Probably. I am not him.

 

[AresGear_Jake]

You know what makes a really nice muzzle weight to reduce flip? An X300U.


- Jake

 

[Darth Tater]

You know what makes a really nice muzzle weight to reduce flip? An X300U.
- Jake

LOL I actually just purchased one on Ebay this morning...

Talking over (competition-wise) with Manny Bragg, he suggested I replace my G34 recoil spring with a 13#. He explained that the stock spring is snappy enough it actually drives the sights down when it returns to battery and causes a momentary dip/bounce back up to reacquire the sights for a second round. Doing some slow-mo analysis, we saw it was correct. I haven't gotten a 13#er yet. I need to figure out how that works as opposed to the contained RSA in a Glock.

 

[MojoNixon]

LOL I actually just purchased one on Ebay this morning...

Talking over (competition-wise) with Manny Bragg, he suggested I replace my G34 recoil spring with a 13#. He explained that the stock spring is snappy enough it actually drives the sights down when it returns to battery and causes a momentary dip/bounce back up to reacquire the sights for a second round. Doing some slow-mo analysis, we saw it was correct. I haven't gotten a 13#er yet. I need to figure out how that works as opposed to the contained RSA in a Glock.

I find this interesting as I did some slo-mo analysis of my own and noticed this happening with my stock G19 RSA. It was causing me to miss high. Anyone know what the weight is on a standard G19 RSA and what weight I could switch to, to help eliminate this bouncing? I do find with an extra hard focus on the front sight I can pretty much solve the issue so it may just be my own internal software problem rather than a hardware problem. I can hear Bourneshooter standing behind me yelling "Front Sight, Front Sight, Front Sight".

 

[Keld]

I believe 17# is standard Glock RSA weights.

 

[theWRECKLESSone]

IIRC 17# is factory on the G34 and G17 while 18# is factory for G19. I run 13# recoil springs in all of my 9mm glocks (34, 17, 19) without any issues. Gen 3 non captive is no big deal, gen 4 non captive needs a bushing or a captured guide rod. I run this in a Gen 4 G19 NDZ Performance Stainless Steel Guide Rod Single Spring Assembly with 13lb ISMI Spring For GLOCK Gen 4 only (Stainless Steel Adapter) G17 17L 22 24 31 34 35 37 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QSEF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Uvulyb0FHBMQS


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[Keld]

IIRC 17# is factory on the G34 and G17 while 18# is factory for G19. I run 13# recoil springs in all of my 9mm glocks (34, 17, 19) without any issues. Gen 3 non captive is no big deal, gen 4 non captive needs a bushing or a captured guide rod. I run this in a Gen 4 G19 NDZ Performance Stainless Steel Guide Rod Single Spring Assembly with 13lb ISMI Spring For GLOCK Gen 4 only (Stainless Steel Adapter) G17 17L 22 24 31 34 35 37 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QSEF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Uvulyb0FHBMQS

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Thanks for the link, just ordered one for my G17

 

[Darth Tater]

Thanks for the link, just ordered one for my G17

Filthy Dane-lander!

 

[Keld]

Filthy Dane-lander!

Blow me, Bill.

 

[Darth Tater]

Blow me, Bill.

Ha! I miss you, buddy. But not that much!

 

[Jamie]

So this is probably not the best way to transfer from the Facebook forum. If someone knows a better way please help me out.

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