Lube! How? What? When? What environments?

Bill Blowers

Bill Blowers

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We had several duty M&P's and an XDm fail to fire. The cause was inappropriate application of Frog Lube into the firing pin channel. Created kind of a hydraulic lock and the firing pin would not move forward. Cleaned them up and the guns worked fine. I don't think the same thing would be possible with an oil. We only use Slip now.
 
TANGO451

TANGO451

Newbie
Grayman said:
I never had my BCG start to look wet after heating it up.... Once the Frog lube "soaked" in it seemed to disappear completely. I have cleaned with frog lube a few times but always add Slip2000 for actual lubrication purposes
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On mine you can see the green lube once it's heated other than that it looks dry. If the rain stops tomorrow I'll head to the range and get a pic.


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patriot_man

patriot_man

Regular Member
I've experienced FireClean gumming up in cold conditions.

Surprisingly the first time I experienced this was at an indoor range where the air circulation system was blowing cold air onto my shooting bay. I noticed this white grease form on top of my barrel hood on my Glock 17.
 
Grayman

Grayman

Established
A few years ago I was hiking around with my rifle in the snow and decided to test out the Slip2000 by ramming a bunch of snow onto the BCG and letting it sit there for a while. The Slip never gummed up or slowed down. The snow fell right off the BCG after sitting on there for an hour in the cold sleety weather.

I'll stick with Slip!
 
JCSpringer

JCSpringer

Regular Member
I used to be a 10W30 guy, but I've been using the Italian Gun Grease family of products for a while. I haven't put a ton of rounds through my guns since switching but I've been satisfied with the function checking of the guns. My Glock runs really no matter what. So does my Adams Arms rifle but the IGG lube and grease treatment has reduced a lot of felt friction when running the actions.
 
Dod505

Dod505

Newbie
Another vote for Slip EWL, which I've used in many 3 day carbean classes. I currently use Rand CLP. I've head Fire Clean is the latest hotness for the past couple of years. I have also used a 70/30 mix of synthetic motor oil (royal purple and militec 1) for a few years to great effect and it's way cheaper than typical gun/snake oil. Essentially, any lube will do, as long as it can stay in place for a few hundred rounds. I'm considering bacon drippings for use in the summer months because I like the smell, and just to eff with people's heads...
 
Presscheck Consulting

Presscheck Consulting

Gunslinger
Staff member
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WARLORD
Exactly! Some have gone so far as to put a product designed to be used between two consenting NSW males and apply it to their weapons..... it's madness!
 
Dan_Kemp

Dan_Kemp

Amateur
I'm a Garand owner- rather than the original spec of Lubriplate, I started using high temp wheel bearing grease. It's cheap, when it gets visibly dirty you wipe it out and use more, and if it will lube wheel bearings it will lube any damn thing.

I do want to start running Slip in my AR, but to be honest I don't shoot my AR all that much these days.
 
regdudedrtyjob

regdudedrtyjob

Regular Member
I bought a squirt bottle of the Slip-2000, so I'm good for now. I'll throw grease on the SIG, and also on shotguns (choke tube threads). I got a small bottle of lube from 10-8 Performance that stayed where you put it really well, but they don't make it anymore, and like I said I already have a bunch of Slip 2K.
 
ROMPER

ROMPER

Amateur
Depends......I was taught to use LSA. I like it for guns between shooting. If on the range for an extended period (teaching or taking a class) I will just put slip2000 on the BCG without having to take the gun apart.
Yet to have any issues. 100+ temps down to -35. Agree with already mentioned. If the BCG is wet the gun will run.....the moment it gets dry it will stop. Do not really care what I use.....but the last time I bought 4 large bottles of LSA was about 7 years ago for work. We are still running strong on the stuff and it was considerably cheaper than everything else I have seen.

An exception to this would be on my AKs.....I run non-lithium wheel bearing grease. And no issues.

R
 
A910

A910

Member
Just a heads up for the guys talking about working in sub zero temps: The russians used to mix a little bit of gasoline in with the grease during the winter to keep it from freezing up during WWII. Just something to think about.

Pretty indifferent on what I use.
 
Simms65

Simms65

Shenanigans!
Staff member
Administrator
For personal a duty guns:

I use non-chlorinated brake cleaner and Mil-pro 7 as cleaner/degreasers.

To lube everything FIREClean unless a heavy grease is required, in which I use TW25b. I've seen FC get white in extreme cold temperatures (~10° F and below), but not cause a failure. I also don't re-apply degreasers unless the gun is so bad it has chunks of crud coming out of it. Once FC is applied on a degreased gun I clean and re-lube using it.

For business guns that get rode hard and put away wet, non-chlorinated brake cleaner to clean, then hosed with whatever oil/clp we are getting for the cheapest at the time.
 
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pi3

Newbie
Simms65 said:
For personal a duty guns:

I use non-chlorinated brake cleaner and Mil-pro 7 as cleaner/degreasers.

To lube everything FIREClean unless a heavy grease is required, in which I use TW25b. I've seen FC get white in extreme cold temperatures (~10° F and below), but not cause a failure. I also don't re-apply degreasers unless the gun is so bad it has chunks of crud coming out of it. Once FC is applied on a degreased gun I clean and re-lube using it.

For business guns that get rode hard and put away wet, non-chlorinated brake cleaner to clean, then hosed with whatever oil/clp we are getting for the cheapest at the time.
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Do you have a problem with the FC conflicting with the grease?
 
Simms65

Simms65

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pi3 said:
Do you have a problem with the FC conflicting with the grease?
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I don't use both on one gun. If grease is required I'll use Mil Comm grease and oil. Works fine. Only gun I have I do that on is an old W German Sig 228. Everything else gets FC.

Mixing FC with other types of oil WILL cause sticky gunk issues.
 
Lobsterclaw207

Lobsterclaw207

Regular Member
Got a free sample of FrogLube at a cop competition I was participating in. Said what the hell, I'll try this shit out. Half of one tiny tube (the sample) on the BCG of the BCM rifle, shot suppressed.

About two events later (maybe 150 rounds or so), the rifle was running so sluggish it was noticeable while firing. I'm all like "wtf, mate?", the only variable I'd changed between the previous 7,000 drama-free rounds or so this rifle has shot is the lube. A event later, it was failing to go into battery. The FrogLube was an actual pain in the ass to get off, as it had hardened and caked around places, even though I was shooting the gun on the reg the whole time. Once I cleaned it up and squirted my usual go-juice in there (SLIP 2000 EWL!!!)..... functioned perfectly again.

So, I'll say this: If you use FrogLube, you're an idiot plain and simple. There is no reason, no need, and no explanation to be loyal to a frigging gel-like substance that goes on your gun to make it go bang right. SLIP 2000 and other known quantities are inexpensive enough that even after "winning" a FREE larger bottle of FrogLube in the raffle... yeah, no.

Buy SLIP, or Fireclean, or whatever... but FrogLube sucks.
 
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