Affordable AR-9 for discrete PDW

ericimo

ericimo

Newbie
Looking for a discrete PDW. Something smaller than my 10.5" AR that could easily fit in a daypack. I legitimately love the build quality of the Sig MPX K and the CZ Scorpion Evo Micro (I believe one of the P&S admins has the CZ). I've shot the CZ Scorpion SBR that a local department issues to SRO's to discretely carry in a backpack while patroling the school. It's awesome. Almost as awesome as the Sig which I've only handled, never shot.

What I don't love is the $1k-$2k price tag.

So, does anyone have experience with any of the AR-9 builds out there that demonstrate solid quality without a premium price? I'm looking for ones that offer barrels as short as even 4" with 9mm.
 
tmoore

tmoore

Member
i dont know your specific intended use/ situation but i will say that a concealed pistol will no doubt make a faster to deploy, more effective defensive weapon than any pdw in a backpack. that being said in my experience the cz has been more reliable than any ar-9 build i have played around with. if you are buying with the idea it will be a defensive weapon than id strongly suggest spending the doe for reliability. i have allot of experience with the scorpion and a bit with the mpx and ten times out of ten i would take the scorpion. also living in NH and personally knowing a great many people who do and have worked at sig i would not trust their rifles to use as defensive weapons.
 
ericimo

ericimo

Newbie
tmoore said:
i dont know your specific intended use/ situation but i will say that a concealed pistol will no doubt make a faster to deploy, more effective defensive weapon than any pdw in a backpack.
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For sure on deployment. Just looking for something to take with me especially on trips that is notably smaller than my 10.5".

If I had the funds, I'd already have the CZ Micro. It fills what I'm looking for very well. And I'd select it over the Sig purely for for the ever expanding aftermarket support. It's the iPhone of pistol caliber carbines/PDW's.
 
tmoore

tmoore

Member
the evo and mpx are the extent of my pcc experience so i cant comment on any other manufacture. I actually ended up getting rid of my evo because i decided i had no use for it. perhaps you should look into building your own? from what i understand, now with the popularity of the pcc there is more support/ purpose built components that would make a built pcc now more reliable than one you built say even five years ago. as long as you do good work and your research there is no reason i can think of why you cant build a quality reliable ar-9. plus it would allow you to buy components a little at a time to be easier on the wallet. i mean... how the hell else are you supposed to get a Japanese tentacle porn lower receiver if your not gonna build it yourself?
 
ericimo

ericimo

Newbie
Definitely an option I'm considering. With my limited build experience, I typically just buy an assembled upper (as opposed to "complete" upper), then piece out everything else. Getting a couple minor aspects wrong with the gas system and barrel assembly can result in unreliable cycling or catastrophic failure. I prefer a more experienced hand with all the right tools, and have seen too many amateurs like me turn their AR build into an unreliable money pit.

Whereas a trained chimp with a punch set could put a reliable lower together. Just recommend to anyone that they don't go cheap on that LPK.
 
rudukai13

rudukai13

Pro Internet User
You mentioned you’d go for a MPX or Scorpion if not for the price tags, so I’m guessing you’re not particularly married to it being an AR platform. Have you seen the relatively new Flux Defense brace for fullsize Glocks...? Would definitely keep it in the price and size range you’re looking for, while providing a shoulder-stabilized compact subgun in a platform we already know to be extremely reliable. Might be worth looking at;

https://www.fluxdefense.com
 
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