I am actually referring to the factory loaded Barnes 110gr Vor-TX. This load uses the black tip.
Just to clarify, are you referring to the actual bullet (for reloads)? Or do they make .300 TTSX ammo with blue tip?
Some subsonic loads will penetrate soft armor which gives it an advantage over traditional handgun calibers. S&B 200gr, Sig 220gr match, and Fioochi 220gr are the best subsonic ball round for reliability/performance. When it comes to hard armor performance the results are similar to 7.62x39.Bringing this back up:
Has there been any updates for HD or duty-suitable subsonic factor loads?
Some subsonic loads will penetrate soft armor which gives it an advantage over traditional handgun calibers. S&B 200gr, Sig 220gr match, and Fioochi 220gr are the best subsonic ball round for reliability/performance. When it comes to hard armor performance the results are similar to 7.62x39.
So if you wanted a small suppressed weapon with subsonic ammunition for home defense would you be better served with a 9mm pcc firing 147gr HSTs or would the 300blk still outperform those being a rifle round?
Considering the 300blk was developed and employed to replace a 9mm PCC the answer is fairly obvious.
Thanks for the response Yondering. Your earlier comment echoed some of what I've found researching 300blk for a possible next purchase. My desire for a subsonic hd gun is to do with hearing damage not over penetration, so I'm looking for the most effective option in those parameters.The answer is not as obvious as you may think.
If he'd asked about full power loads, then it's a slam dunk for the 300, and that is where it's real advantage is. But in subsonics - the choices of effective subsonic 30 caliber bullets is very limited, and even harder to find in loaded ammo. In 9mm on the other hand, we've got a lot of very good choices that perform a lot better than the typical subsonic 300 Blk.
Too many people get hung up on the idea that somehow a subsonic round is best for their home defense, without understanding the limitations. Often the same people claim to be concerned about overpenetration, without understanding that non-expanding subsonic 300 Blk (or any 30 caliber) penetrates far more than a decent expanding pistol bullet.
While several of the heavy subsonic rounds do penetrate soft armor well, I think it's important to recognize those as basically a ballistic ice pick; do not expect those to perform like a rifle round, or even like an expanding pistol round. The stability and lack of deformation that allows them to penetrate soft armor also translates to minimal damage in meat unless they strike bone.
When you compare hard armor performance to 7.62x39, that is true with supersonic (full power) 110-130gr loads, but not with subsonics. None of the 300 Blackout loads are particularly good on hard armor compared to 5.56 or 308, but I have found in my own testing that the "barrier blind" Mk319 SOST 130gr bullet works well in the 300 Blackout. I don't know if there are any commercial loads for that bullet though; I bought a supply of the bullets a few years ago and have been testing them in 308 and 300 Blk since then.
The answer is not as obvious as you may think.
If he'd asked about full power loads, then it's a slam dunk for the 300, and that is where it's real advantage is. But in subsonics - the choices of effective subsonic 30 caliber bullets is very limited, and even harder to find in loaded ammo. In 9mm on the other hand, we've got a lot of very good choices that perform a lot better than the typical subsonic 300 Blk.
Too many people get hung up on the idea that somehow a subsonic round is best for their home defense, without understanding the limitations. Often the same people claim to be concerned about overpenetration, without understanding that non-expanding subsonic 300 Blk (or any 30 caliber) penetrates far more than a decent expanding pistol bullet.
I have a hard time thinking a 9inch suppressed 300blk shooting 220gr subsonics is going to be less effective terminally than a 9inch suppressed 9mm shooting 147gr HST. Not that there's anything wrong with HST.