What are you using and why in which guns?
Lube! How? What? When? What environments?
- Thread starter Matt Landfair
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Free lube is best lube! Oil bitches!
JD Williams
Member
LE context. Slip 2000 EWL, generally applied liberally to moving parts (weapon system dependent), Great North-Wet US of A. This also recently replaced CLP for our agency. It seems to migrate less than CLP as well as last longer under a higher firing schedule.
It's lube... not rocket science. I like slip2000, I also like M-pro7. Clp is runny but it works. Break free was the gold standard 25 years ago, I would put that shit in my gun tomorrow, unafraid.
I wouldn't use anything made by navy seals or that is edible. I don't want my WEAPONS lube edible. Edible only matters with personal lube.
I wouldn't use anything made by navy seals or that is edible. I don't want my WEAPONS lube edible. Edible only matters with personal lube.
In Somalia they shot the oil pans of parked cars, filled up the helmets of wounded soldiers with black motor oil and poured it into the feed trays and operating systems of sandy, dry, carbon coated belt fed SAWS and M-60's. So let's not split hairs about something a trivial as lube when there are mother fuckers on the internet advocating Serpa holsters.
Sorry.... my agent orange flared up.
Bourneshooter
Blue Line Sheepdog
Preach it!
Currently in dry (unless it rains and when it does it rains heavy) Northern Nevada.
SLIP 2000 EWL in my patrol rifle and duty Glock and M&P. I check and add lube on the AR once a month, or if a heavy round count training session occured/is about to occur, at that time. Just squirt it on all the moving parts.
Glock/M&P: 1 drop on each of the 4 frame rails every few months. little bit on the contact parts of the barrel as well. Once a year I will run a bore snake own the barrel and when I do that, I also add a drop onto the trigger bars.
Currently in dry (unless it rains and when it does it rains heavy) Northern Nevada.
SLIP 2000 EWL in my patrol rifle and duty Glock and M&P. I check and add lube on the AR once a month, or if a heavy round count training session occured/is about to occur, at that time. Just squirt it on all the moving parts.
Glock/M&P: 1 drop on each of the 4 frame rails every few months. little bit on the contact parts of the barrel as well. Once a year I will run a bore snake own the barrel and when I do that, I also add a drop onto the trigger bars.
I love this topic on other, shall we say... less dialled-in.... forums.
It NEVER ends well...
Recently (like, in the past several years) I got turned on to using grease on handguns. I began using LubriPlate 130-A; the same stuff recommended for my Garand. It works, but if the firearm is not shot or "worked" for a while it eventually dries out and turns cake-like. Bad juju.
I have settled on TW-25B or similar (Slip 2000 EWG and Shooter's Choice All Weather High Tech Grease are excellent substitutes) for sliding stuff... frame rails, barrel hoods/bushings, etc... and whatever oil is handy for the rotating stuff.
The nimrods always cry about how cold weather makes grease a terrible thing, etc. While there is some truth to that, if you carry your iron IWB all day, then store the gun when not carrying it in a climate-controlled environment, it simply is not an issue. Your body heat keeps the stuff semi-liquid.
I also use grease at a few spots on the bolt carrier of my carbines, oil everywhere else that needs lube.
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It NEVER ends well...
Recently (like, in the past several years) I got turned on to using grease on handguns. I began using LubriPlate 130-A; the same stuff recommended for my Garand. It works, but if the firearm is not shot or "worked" for a while it eventually dries out and turns cake-like. Bad juju.
I have settled on TW-25B or similar (Slip 2000 EWG and Shooter's Choice All Weather High Tech Grease are excellent substitutes) for sliding stuff... frame rails, barrel hoods/bushings, etc... and whatever oil is handy for the rotating stuff.
The nimrods always cry about how cold weather makes grease a terrible thing, etc. While there is some truth to that, if you carry your iron IWB all day, then store the gun when not carrying it in a climate-controlled environment, it simply is not an issue. Your body heat keeps the stuff semi-liquid.
I also use grease at a few spots on the bolt carrier of my carbines, oil everywhere else that needs lube.
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Grease is good. I use the red stuff in the syringe looking thing. The glocks Shiney parts get them, usually around the time my trigger starts to feel like shit. My bunk ass feels like 5lb trigger pull is an indicator that I might want to take my blaster apart, remove the bad stuff and add some good stuff.
I live in the cold tundra of Wisconsin. I have worked shifts when it has been -50F. While those are not the norm, it is not unusual to have -20 to 0F temps at various times. The weapon can start out cold, get warmed up, and cycle back and forth between warm and cold. I need it to work regardless the temperature variation. I have used lubes that thickened or froze at various points below freezing. I now only use Slip2000 EWL. It hasn't froze yet, and last year was one of the hardest winters I've been through.
Bronson
Fury
My requirements:
1) It needs to be reliable.
2) It needs to be effective.
3) It needs to work in a wide range of temperatures (think cold mountaintops in the winter or Fort Drum to the Arghandab River Valley 140 degree humid summers).
Slip EWL is my preferred lubrication, as it best fulfills these requirements currently. I don't have any allegiance to companies - I just want shit that works, preferably what works the best (and is cheap or free). Larue practically outfitted my PLT with MGL for free with all the shit I bought from them.
Application (where and how much) is the most important aspect, and this can be dictated by the environment. I did not lube my weapon the same in Al-Hillah & Babil / OIF as I did in the Arghandab / OEF.
Lube can be stored in an out of the way place - look at the dog faces from Vietnam who had a bottle in their helmet bands. CSM's might have a coronary seeing Joe do this, but if they are more concerned about appearances over lethality they are undeserving of being in the formation, let alone in front of it. These days a small pouch can be added to the back of the helmet to store it.
In our organization weapons lubrication was an Individual level item - everyone carried their own lube and was responsible for their individual weapon system's performance. This worked well, although I will admit to not breaking down weapons on week-long + mission sets and just squirting lube into the bolt through the ejection port and cycling it at times. Our only problem was the Star Child in our PLT, but he was a lost cause anyway.
1) It needs to be reliable.
2) It needs to be effective.
3) It needs to work in a wide range of temperatures (think cold mountaintops in the winter or Fort Drum to the Arghandab River Valley 140 degree humid summers).
Slip EWL is my preferred lubrication, as it best fulfills these requirements currently. I don't have any allegiance to companies - I just want shit that works, preferably what works the best (and is cheap or free). Larue practically outfitted my PLT with MGL for free with all the shit I bought from them.
Application (where and how much) is the most important aspect, and this can be dictated by the environment. I did not lube my weapon the same in Al-Hillah & Babil / OIF as I did in the Arghandab / OEF.
Lube can be stored in an out of the way place - look at the dog faces from Vietnam who had a bottle in their helmet bands. CSM's might have a coronary seeing Joe do this, but if they are more concerned about appearances over lethality they are undeserving of being in the formation, let alone in front of it. These days a small pouch can be added to the back of the helmet to store it.
In our organization weapons lubrication was an Individual level item - everyone carried their own lube and was responsible for their individual weapon system's performance. This worked well, although I will admit to not breaking down weapons on week-long + mission sets and just squirting lube into the bolt through the ejection port and cycling it at times. Our only problem was the Star Child in our PLT, but he was a lost cause anyway.
Grayman
Established
I got some free frog lube a while back and decided to give it a shot.... It seems to clean things okay but I just don't trust it as a lube. They claim it soaks into the pores of the metal and lubricates over time; I'm not materials engineer but I don't think that concept is 100% scientifically sound.
The shit is dried up in a few days even when you lay it on like it's going out of style. I don't trust it for keeping my moving parts moving but it does smell nice!
The shit is dried up in a few days even when you lay it on like it's going out of style. I don't trust it for keeping my moving parts moving but it does smell nice!
TANGO451
Newbie
I know what you mean. My dept range heads live and breathe frog lube. I noticed how dry the bolt on my patrol rifle was after using it and asked if I should add any. They assured me it was fine. A couple hundred rounds later I had no problems and the stuff actually looked wet as it heated up. I like it now and have no problem using it on my duty weapons. Just a FYI ,before it was applied they took my weapons completely apart and thoroughly removed all traces of previous militec1 that I had been using.
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