voodoo_man
Established
Description
In June of 2016, Glock won the FBI Contract and rumors began to spread on various specifications of the Glock M models, which we know are very closely related to the new Gen5's. Like the M models, the Gen5's come with Ameriglo three-dot night sights which Glock seems to own the rights to in order to openly compete with other pistol manufacturers. This is a huge step in the right direction for Glock and it stemmed from their involvement with FBI Contract solicitation requirements (link to PDF, requirements can be found at C.4-14). The TL;DR of this is that the FBI wanted black steel, non reflective, sights which the rears can be racked off of one handed, they wanted a POA/POI at point of ledge (that is cutting the target in half with the front sight ledge at 25 yards), they wanted three-dot night sight setup, they needed to be "high visibility sights" which the FBI referred to the Trijicon HD's (GL101O)
Click here to read the full review
Ameriglo Defoor (GT-514) sights
The above photo is of a .125 front sight post which will be available for purchase, it is .200 tall and mimics its .140 counterpart in POA/POI. Just a disclaimer, the caliper I am using is a cheapy and may not be to 100% specifications. I would highly recommend consulting Ameriglo (website or customer service) for their specifications.
The difference between the rears of the BOLD and FBI, Square and "U" notch sights is enough to provide the shooter with options of preference. Some people like square notches better, some like "U" notches better, having both available and interchangeable along with the front sight post(s) is a feature which does not generally exist in this level of iron sight.
The BOLD's square notch measures .163
And about .186 tall.
.732 complete sight width
For the FBI Contract sights, "U" notch is .160:
They are about .185 tall.
And total width of the sight is about .733.
So that is a lot of numbers being thrown around, lets put them all in one place:
Front sight available in .125 and .140 at .200 tall.
Rear sight available in .163 (square) and .160 (U) respectively and .186/.185 tall.
First Opinion
Right out of the box I installed the .125 and .160 "U" notch sights and hit the range (see photo above). Dialing the sights in was easy and I had to move the rear sight just a hair move than I anticipated due to the aftermarket Barsto barrel. The sights ran as well as I expected, I ran a few 100 and 200 drills, ended up in the high 90 range for 100's and 160-170 range for 200's. This is on par with my accuracy standards when using the Ameriglo Defoor sights referenced above.
Conversely, I also like the square notch and .140 front sight combo. The front sight is wide enough to take up just the right amount of room inside the rear sight notch window and allows the shooter to easily front "center" just like with the .125/"U" notch combo.
In the Field
I then went to Texas for the HiTS First Responder Pistol 3/Shotgun combo class during which I ran my EDC Glock 19 with the FBI Contract sights (.125 front). The sights ran well and the resulting accuracy was expected. I enjoyed the thin front sight post and the combination of "U" notch allowed me to predictably attain the accuracy I was looking for.
I carried with this setup for a few months and around 3/17 I switched rear sights over to the square notch.
I originally kept the thin .125 front sight but eventually swapped over to the .140 front. The .125 front with the square notch was difficult for me to use because I constantly fished around for it inside the square notch. Running various drills during various range days and during daily dry-fire training I ended up moving away from the .125/square notch setup and switching to the .140. I used this setup for about four months, several thousand rounds with this setup. This is the setup which comes with the Gen5 Glock 19 / 17 directly from Glock. For a very short time I put the .140 and the "U" notch setup on one of my Glock 19's and ran it at the range. It ran just fine, in fact I would probably like to put more time on this particular setup to see how well it can work.
Ownership and Usage
I have the same issue with these that I had with the Trijicon HD sights, I do not like orange front sights. In bright sunlight I lose them pretty quickly and while I can pick them up during a fast draw up close I would much rather have a green front sight. The circle is pretty easy to use for up close shooting and there is no appreciable difference between the .125 and .140 out to 15 yards. The BOLD setup of .140/square notch compared to the .140/"U" notch setup work exactly the same for me and I suspect they will work the same for everyone 15 yards and in. Once you get to around the 25 yard mark, that .125 front width is going to help a lot. This has a everything to do with eyesight, overall ability to see change focus from target to front sight post, to rear sight post, then somewhere in the middle of the front/rear sights to figure out exactly where the shot is going to land. For the average person the .140 will likely work really well, which is probably the consensus reached by Ameriglo and Glock alike. The .125 is a great front sight option and I would recommend it to anyone who shoots out to, and past, 25 yards, but it is probably going to be under utilized by the average shooter.
I installed all front sights with a small dab of purple loctite
Final Thoughts and Recommendations
As I stated above, my preference is a green front high visibility front sight and thankfully Ameriglo not only killed the competition with the BOLD/FBI sights, they thought ahead and made sure there will be .125 and .140 front sights available. They sent me a .140 front sight in green to run with both BOLD/FBI rears and I will eventually swap it for a .125 to see how it works, these two setups will be how I will run the Gen5 Glock 19 and 17. The question I have gotten constantly and I want to address is how do these compare to the Trijicon HD XR